
My old T05 was chipped and had shrunk so the wood could be seen all around the edges. The shrinking part bothers me. The chipping made the effect of the shrinking rubber worse. I still have a relatively new T05 on my TBS and I have another T05 still in the wrapper but it is red and I usually have black as a FH rubber.
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durability
I think 2 years is a good run, I doubt you would use any other rubber that long.
I haven't changed my 3 or 4 tenergy that I keep rotating around on various blades for about a year. I wanted to show the boys here how I play when I use new tenergy -especially my serve is over the top spinny. Oh well more important things for me to do at the moment - ie visas.
Will be in Bangkok - so maybe will see if I can covince my mrs it is worth the trip to the store.
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What are you going to buy?
I have so much stuff now it will take a long time to use it all. I have over $200 worth of rubber that I haven't even opened yet from my EJ year.
I have come to the conclusion that skill is more important than rubber, at least at my level. I can play a good game with my hard bat. I can't loop but my back hand 'bitch slap' still works.
One does have to adapt to the rubber though. If you can't adapt to different rubbers then your choices are limited.
Mark V seems to last a long time.
Tenergy 05 + twiddle pips
I'll buy a new sheet of black tenergy 05 for sure, I am going to stick to using the original, plain simple nothing suits me better for both backhand and forehand - especially if I have to choose only one inverted.
The c8 grew on me a lot yesterday. I am learning how to use them gradually, and they showed me against Ed anyway that I can block his attacks at the table and further back - I am learning to softly punch some and higher balls kill.
Still have to learn how to smash with them on my forehand.
I won't need to buy another sheet of them though for a long time.
On the topic you said they don't reverse the spin enough, I think that is better for me because it means they can block topspin onto the table easier. Pips with no sponge are much harder to get bat angles right.
I think subtle differences are more important for my game for now.
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Block off the bounce
"On the topic you said they don't reverse the spin enough, I think that is better for me because it means they can block topspin onto the table easier. Pips with no sponge are much harder to get bat angles right."
The trick is to block off the bounce. For some reason it kills the speed. When the speed is reduced it is much easier to keep the ball on the table. The second and harder trick is closing the paddle correctly. Push Blocker says he keeps his paddle in a neutral position but I find that I must open and close the paddle a little bit. I keep the paddle relatively neutral when the ball is coming low and flat. Those that have an arc like slow and spinny loops will bounce up at a higher angle. This alone will make the ball bounce high but the top spin will make it bounce high even worse. The slow spinny loops will bounce high require closing the paddle a bit.
I have played with C8 0X briefly. I thought it was an in-between LP, more of a compromise between being a chopping/hitting rubber. I want either max spin reversal/blocking or hitting capability.
I think you will do well with your setup. Learning to twiddle will be the key. You should be able to twiddle the T05 to your BH and put high balls away.
I replaced my T05 with SST Pro Team. So far I am not impressed. I still think Red Diamond and Rakza 7 Soft max are good replacements. I still like Red Diamond a lot and think it is the best rubber for the $ out there but it only comes in red. Last year I had a lot of success with Rakza 7 1.8mm. I was mostly hitting and driving then but I have changed as I can brush loop and counter brush loop now. It have been a little more than a year now since you told me to put more brushing in my loops. What I have found that if I brush I can loop like crazy with just about any rubber as long as I am willing/able to put the effort into. Some rubbers simply generate more spin than others for the same amount of effort. I also have a H2 Neo. I haven't played with it for a while but I remember that I thought it was just as spinny as T05 but a little slower.
Right now I am playing with 802 1.5mm or 802-40 1.8mm on my BH. On mytt I was told there wouldn't be much difference between the two rubbers but there is a big difference. Obviously there is the difference in the sponge thickness and the pips. I would have thought that the sponges would be the same material but they even look different. The 802 1.5mm plays a lot like my hard bat rubber with just a little cushion. It is very good at aggressively blocking loops but it is difficult to loop with. The paddle motion must be too much down to up instead of like a frisbee toss. It is too hard to get speed from a loop with 802 1.5mm. If the sponge bottoms out the ball will go into the net if I close the paddle too much. On the plus side I would say 802 1.5mm is easy to control. When I block a loop I usually hit the ball back to the other guys pocket so he has to move to his BH side to loop again. Eventually I will block quickly off the bounce to his extreme FH. The block off right off the bounce kills speed so the ball will drop off the table.
The 802-40 1.8mm is closer to an inverted rubber like everyone says. One can hit with lots of top spin and loop with it. It isn't as good at looping as the inverted rubber I have but it is good enough considering that it is controllable.
When playing with either 802 1.5mm or 802-40 1.8mm I will flat hit ( bitch slap ) anything high. I can drive with both but 802-40 is easier. Usually when I am under attack I block and try to out last the attacker. If the attacker doesn't make me move too much he usually loses. My footwork is better but not great or even good. I can also chicken wing block which is something I learned from playing with LP.
I have 5 things that I can do pretty well now.
1. I can serve with a lot of under spin. I don't disguise it well enough though but I still get points.
2. I have what I call my dribble serve. I hit the ball low over the net with little energy. It will double or even triple bounce. The opponent usually hits these up and I then go on the attack.
3. I have a good back hand flat hit. I play a lot of lefties and I am not afraid to match my BH against their FH.
4. I have a slow spinny loop that I like to hit cross court at extreme angles so the ball bounces low off the side of the table. Lefties can't get this with their BH and righties usually hit the ball up just trying to get it back so I then can attack it. The problem is that I have to slow the pace down so I can hit a slow and spinny loop.
5. I have a good FH shot to my extreme FH side of the table. It isn't just down the line. I can move to my BH side and hit the ball off my FH side of the table. Everyone I play hates this shot because it doesn't require the ball be slow. As long as I have the energy to move to my BH side to make the shot it works. The real trick is that they don't know where I am going to hit the ball till it is too late.
The FH shot to my FH side requires a lot of energy for me to move. I have also been told that this shot does have as much spin or speed as my cross court drives. It is only effective because it is a surprise and most at my level don't have a BH that can handle it.
I find that my success depends greatly on how I feel and how much energy I have. After a couple of hours at the club I can't move much at all. I still play about 10-15 hours a week.
You have definately tried a
You have definately tried a hell of a lot more non inverted rubbers than me and even inverted in recent times.
I have come to the end of the road for myself. No more wasting time - 05 is it, and the cheapest LP for now until I get sick of it.
There is a huge contrast between them even though it is not the biggest possible out there. I will start a new thread for the rest of my thoughts.
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802-40
hey pnach
i tried my gergley 21 with the tenergy05 and the 802-40 the other day....the pimple was fine as its just a faster version with more spin than my other pimple but the 05 was simply too hard to loop with consistency for me..especially after not picking up a bat for nearly 3 months..at all.
so the next week i used my TBS with hexer and the leopard short pimple....it was soooo much easier to loop and play with i cant say it enough...seems to want to throw the ball higher and sort of sinks in more perhaps but i was a way more consistent player with it and got a lot more swing also from my hookspin BH.
i like the 802-40 and if i wasnt so lazy i would order a red one so i can use it instead of the leopard...hmmm i really should do that...but im playing a long pimple due tomorrow and enjoy my rubber stuffing him up also :-)
Barking up the blade
I would say the main difference in those combinations is not the rubber but the blade. Not much else to say, I love both those blades but the gergley is really for people who attack hard and fast constantly.
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gergley
i think it is a great bat, but i would rather something a lot slower and softer i think to be able to control it...cant believe i played with that combination for like 2 years in ignorance!